You’re the one who remembers everything.
You’re the one who fixes everything.
If you stop, things fall apart.
And somehow, you still feel like you’re “failing” at your relationship.
This podcast is where that starts to change.
How To Talk So HE Steps Up: THE Podcast
What this podcast actually is
Each episode is a live coaching session with a woman who is doing it all and has no idea how to step out of that role without everything collapsing.
✅ You hear her describe what lands on her plate.
✅ You hear the moment she sees the pattern that keeps her stuck.
✅ You learn how to spot the same pattern in your own life and start handling things differently.
No scripts.
No fake drama.
No “communicate better” clichés.
Just clear, direct conversations that shift how you show up.
✅This will feel uncomfortable. That’s the point.
I’m direct. I don’t water things down.
You’ll hear women called out, gently and clearly, on the ways they keep stepping in, fixing, and covering… and how that keeps them exhausted.
You’re not broken.
You’re in a pattern.
Patterns can change.
✅Choose how you start
Listen quietly while you walk, drive, or clean the kitchen.
Or step in and get coached yourself.
TRUSTED BY CLIENTS ACROSS CONTINENTS
Entrepreneurs
Parents
High‑achievers
Adults healing from childhood trauma
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PROBLEMS
3 common ways people try to feel better
(all of them fall short)
01.
More Talking
You go back to therapy, explain everything again, gain insight, feel seen.
But when you try to actually do the thing that scares you, your body still locks up.
You understand the pattern.
You still feel hijacked by it.
*That's too costly*
02.
Forcing Yourself Through It
You “face your fears,” sign up for challenges, push yourself into visibility or big moves.
On the outside you look brave. On the inside your nervous system is on fire.
You crash. You burn out. You avoid the next attempt even harder.
White‑knuckling your way through trauma responses is not sustainable.
*That's too harsh.*
03.
Trying To “Think Positive”
You read the books, repeat the affirmations, write the gratitude lists.
It works…until your body remembers a moment it never processed.
Suddenly you are in panic, freeze, or shutdown again.
No mantra can override a nervous system that believes you are in danger.
Mindset alone cannot change what is stored in your body.
*That is too exhausting.*
FROM THE FOUNDER
Read this if you’ve “done the work” and still feel hijacked
I created Heal With Nayo for people who have already tried.
Therapy. Journaling. Mindset work. Breathwork. Somatic tools.
The ones who can speak beautifully about their patterns,
yet still feel their body flip into panic, shutdown, or “I can’t”
at the exact moments they want to move forward.
I do this work because I lived in that gap myself.
On paper, everything looked fine.
Inside, my system was on permanent alert.
Over the years I trained in Advanced Thought Field Therapy
at the voice‑technology level and started working with real people:
Adults who had not left the house in months.
Kids ruled by nightmares.
Entrepreneurs who froze every time they tried to be seen.
Session after session, the same thing happened:
when the nervous system finally released what it was holding,
life started to come back.
That is what Heal With Nayo exists for.
Relief first. Safety first. Life back first.
If you shut down before you even start
For sensitive, high‑functioning humans
You know how to push through.
You know how to “perform” being okay.
What you feel less skilled at is letting yourself be supported.
Letting someone in when your body is screaming,
“Talking about it will make it worse” or
“If I start feeling this, I won’t stop.”
These sessions give you an ethical shortcut your nervous system can accept.
You do not have to relive every detail.
You do not have to be “brave” on command.
We go directly to the fear or shutdown response,
so your body can finally stand down, without you having to fight it.
If you are the one everyone leans on
For carers, helpers, therapists, and space‑holders
You are used to being the regulated one in the room.
The person others cry to, vent to, collapse on.
You may have a lot of tools.
You may even be a therapist or coach yourself.
What you rarely have is a place where your own system gets to unravel
without needing to explain, justify, or perform insight.
In our work, you get to be the one held.
You get a precise, evidence‑based method for releasing what your body carries
from your own history and from everyone you have supported.
So you can keep doing the work you love,
without burning out your nervous system to do it.
If fear has quietly been running your life
For people on the edge of a new chapter
You feel the next chapter pulling at you.
Moving countries. Leaving a job. Starting a business.
Letting yourself be seen in love, in work, in your full self.
And every time you walk toward it,
something invisible pulls you back.
You procrastinate. You overthink. You disappear.
You tell yourself you are “not ready yet”
when what is really happening is a trauma pattern firing in the background.
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In sessions, we work with that pattern directly.
We clear the stored fear, panic, or shame that keeps hitting the brakes.
So when you take the next step,
it is from a body that feels safe enough to let good things happen,
instead of bracing for impact.
ABOUT NAYO
The woman people call “the bad juju remover”
Hi. I’m Nayo.
I am an Advanced Thought Field Therapy practitioner, trained at the voice‑technology level, and for years now people have come to me when nothing else has worked.
I have worked with adults who could not leave the house,
kids gripped by relentless nightmares,
and entrepreneurs who shut down every time they tried to be seen.
Across countries and cultures, the pattern is the same:
once the nervous system feels safe again,
their life starts to come back.
​
I’m French, and I have lived across continents.
In Senegal they call me “le marabout toubab,” the white healer, because I help clear the things you cannot always see, but you absolutely feel.
​
I am not someone who loves talking about myself.
I would much rather talk about your life getting lighter.
But you deserve to know who is sitting with you
when you let someone into the most tender parts of your story.
What you may not know is that I did not set out to “be a healer.” I built this work because I needed it first.
My own system knew what it was to live in permanent alert. It knew how to look “fine” on the outside while parts of me were still frozen in old moments.
Finding Thought Field Therapy felt like being handed a key.
Training to the advanced voice‑technology level gave me a way to unlock patterns gently, precisely, and at a distance.
What began as my personal path to relief became the way I now sit with others whose bodies are still holding on to fear, panic, or shutdown long after their minds have tried to move on.
​
Heal With Nayo is not a big company. It is not a faceless clinic.
It is me, and a small circle of people who believe in this work, supporting real humans and real families.
​
The people who find me are often the ones holding everything together.
Parents, carers, business owners, helpers.
They have people depending on them.
They want a better life not just for themselves, but for the ones they love. That is who I care for in this work.
​
Is this work perfect? Of course not.
Healing is rarely a straight line.
But it is precise, it is gentle, and it is grounded in methods that have been studied in hospitals, schools, and communities from Rwanda to Norway to Japan.
And unlike distant experts or crowded systems, you are not a number here.
When you work with me, you work with me.
I read your intake. I remember your story. I pay attention to how your system responds so we can move at a pace that feels safe enough to you.
I care whether this helps you because your nervous system, your history, and your life matter deeply to me.
I would be honored to support you as you release what has been running your life and start to feel safe in your own body again.
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Nayo
Founder, Heal With Nayo
What happens when real people use this thing?
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Riddle me this…
You’ve found what you’re looking for
Heal With Nayo is for people whose bodies are still in survival mode, even after all the therapy, journaling, and “doing the work.”
It helps you clear fear, trauma, and emotional residue at the nervous‑system level.
Without having to talk it to death.
Without reliving every detail.
Without pretending you’re “fine” while your body is screaming otherwise.
You’ve been coping long enough
You do not need more insight into why you are afraid.
You need the fear to stop running your life.
You get focused 1:1 sessions that go straight to the panic, shutdown, or invisible walls that have been running your life, plus clear guidance on how to support your system before and after each session so the change actually holds in your day‑to‑day life.
​So this is high‑precision inner work plus real support.
An evidence‑based technique in the hands of a practitioner who has sat with adults, kids, and families across continents, helping them feel safe again in their own bodies.
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It is for humans who care about their lives, their loved ones, and the people they serve…
who are tired of coping, managing, and pushing through, and who are ready to finally release what never should have stayed in their system in the first place.